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Where is the ALABAMA RIG legal?
Posted: 25 January 2012 08:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 46 ]
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Completely agreed on the visibility thing. I’ve read IDK how many people claim a line was “too visible” & how they watched a fish in crystal clear water get spooked by the line. Yeah, if you see that fish & “know” it has to be the line that spooked it off, I think I just spotted another fisherman with a marketing slogan hooked in his mouth. It happens to us all from time to time & you know what, it proves true if you believe it, even if it isn’t actually true.

My jury is still out on the translucent line vs opaque line argument.  I can say without a shadow of a doubt that a translucent polymer line is a translucent polymer line whether it be nylon or fluorocarbon as far as visibility is concerned.  The important thing to note as far as I am concerned, is that anglers have a tendency to fool themselves about tackle. 

What makes sense to me, a sometimes intelligent being capable of abstract thought is certainly outside of the realm of understanding of the fish I am targeting.  I believe concepts such as fishing line are alien to the fish.  The fish lack the abstract reasoning required to understand what fishing line is.  They don’t understand what lures are either.  They simply understand what is natural and what is unnatural.  Depending on fishing pressure or absence of, unnatural may simply be associated with “not food” rather than, as anglers will fool themselves into thinking “that’s a guy trying to catch me”.  Bass can seem to be downright smart at times, but they are really just feeding selectively.  What makes sense to us literally makes no damn sense to the fish because, you know, they are fish, while much of the tackle is aimed at catching anglers with logic that makes sense to us.  Careful wordplay on things like “attractants” AKA “scents” come to mind when in reality they are flavorings.

I have yet to fish with any !00% fluoro line. I have some filler spools of Vicious and Berkley Vanish i picked up on sale with the intention of using them only for leader material. I’m haven’t totally bought in to the fact that fluoro makes that much difference. maybe i will spool one rod with fluoro and fish it and another rod with my normal copoly line and tie on the exact same lure and fish them in the same place and see if it makes any difference. If you fish fast moving baits you can have a tow chain on your lure and the fish would hit it. i’m going to fish more with braid this year than last and if i have to, i will tie on a leader. got tired of changing line out all the time using copoly. i will use fluoro in the gin clear pond i fish all the time, there i can see it making some difference but the other places i fish, i just don’t see the need for fluoro or the need to spend a lot of bucks on fluoro. i got 65 days till i retire and my fishing stuff buying is being geared way down. that is why i stock piled the last 6 months and i’m not going to go out and buy a bunch of fluoro just because KVD fishes with it. Don’t have the money to buy any now.

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Posted: 25 January 2012 12:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 47 ]
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This petition is now going around.  I don’t know who started it, but I know that there are several pros that have posted this link.

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-the-a-rig.html

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Posted: 25 January 2012 02:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 48 ]
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make any fish caught with the umbrella type lures strictly CPR in every state.

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Posted: 25 January 2012 07:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 49 ]
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Some more responses from very respected FLW anglers against the A-rig.  I think that they make a great case.  What do you think about what they have to say?

http://www.flwoutdoors.com/fishing-articles/blog/153216/alabama-rig-blog-one-rod-one-bait-one-legacy/

http://www.flwoutdoors.com/fishing-articles/blog/153221/tharp-blog-a-rig-is-the-wrong-direction/

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Posted: 26 January 2012 04:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 50 ]
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I am KCL’s Username - 24 January 2012 10:58 PM

Completely agreed on the visibility thing. I’ve read IDK how many people claim a line was “too visible” & how they watched a fish in crystal clear water get spooked by the line. Yeah, if you see that fish & “know” it has to be the line that spooked it off, I think I just spotted another fisherman with a marketing slogan hooked in his mouth. It happens to us all from time to time & you know what, it proves true if you believe it, even if it isn’t actually true.

My jury is still out on the translucent line vs opaque line argument.  I can say without a shadow of a doubt that a translucent polymer line is a translucent polymer line whether it be nylon or fluorocarbon as far as visibility is concerned.  The important thing to note as far as I am concerned, is that anglers have a tendency to fool themselves about tackle. 

What makes sense to me, a sometimes intelligent being capable of abstract thought is certainly outside of the realm of understanding of the fish I am targeting.  I believe concepts such as fishing line are alien to the fish.  The fish lack the abstract reasoning required to understand what fishing line is.  They don’t understand what lures are either.  They simply understand what is natural and what is unnatural.  Depending on fishing pressure or absence of, unnatural may simply be associated with “not food” rather than, as anglers will fool themselves into thinking “that’s a guy trying to catch me”.  Bass can seem to be downright smart at times, but they are really just feeding selectively.  What makes sense to us literally makes no damn sense to the fish because, you know, they are fish, while much of the tackle is aimed at catching anglers with logic that makes sense to us.  Careful wordplay on things like “attractants” AKA “scents” come to mind when in reality they are flavorings.

I have yet to fish with any !00% fluoro line. I have some filler spools of Vicious and Berkley Vanish i picked up on sale with the intention of using them only for leader material. I’m haven’t totally bought in to the fact that fluoro makes that much difference. maybe i will spool one rod with fluoro and fish it and another rod with my normal copoly line and tie on the exact same lure and fish them in the same place and see if it makes any difference. If you fish fast moving baits you can have a tow chain on your lure and the fish would hit it. i’m going to fish more with braid this year than last and if i have to, i will tie on a leader. got tired of changing line out all the time using copoly. i will use fluoro in the gin clear pond i fish all the time, there i can see it making some difference but the other places i fish, i just don’t see the need for fluoro or the need to spend a lot of bucks on fluoro. i got 65 days till i retire and my fishing stuff buying is being geared way down. that is why i stock piled the last 6 months and i’m not going to go out and buy a bunch of fluoro just because KVD fishes with it. Don’t have the money to buy any now.

I have heard bad things about Vanish but great things about Berkley 100% (see Tackletour).  I have never fished with a fluorocarbon coated nylon polymer line.  I imagine the coating is there to enhance abrasion resistance of the line and nothing more.  The only fluoro line I use is my benchmark line, XPS fluorocarbon.  I use #17 for casting and pitching jigs on my jig rod.  I use braid for pitching and flipping heavy punching rigs through dense timber and aquatic vegetation.  I have used Segar line in #8 as a finesse rig leader material but have noticed no advantages over BPS XPS fluoro line, so I go with the cheap stuff more often than not.  The day I find a line that fishes like XPS fluorocarbon but casts like easy handling nylon mono is the day I am a very happy man.

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Posted: 26 January 2012 08:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 51 ]
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TK - 25 January 2012 07:15 PM

Some more responses from very respected FLW anglers against the A-rig.  I think that they make a great case.  What do you think about what they have to say?

http://www.flwoutdoors.com/fishing-articles/blog/153216/alabama-rig-blog-one-rod-one-bait-one-legacy/

http://www.flwoutdoors.com/fishing-articles/blog/153221/tharp-blog-a-rig-is-the-wrong-direction/

Personally, I dont care if its banned, or allowed, in tourneys. I believe most tournament anglers are responsible enough to fish the bait without hurting a lakes bass population. Its the guys who harvest their catch, all sizes, and by the dozens, that are going to mis-use this bait.

 

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Posted: 26 January 2012 08:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 52 ]
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TK - 25 January 2012 07:15 PM

Some more responses from very respected FLW anglers against the A-rig.  I think that they make a great case.  What do you think about what they have to say?

http://www.flwoutdoors.com/fishing-articles/blog/153216/alabama-rig-blog-one-rod-one-bait-one-legacy/

http://www.flwoutdoors.com/fishing-articles/blog/153221/tharp-blog-a-rig-is-the-wrong-direction/

Personally, I dont care if its banned, or allowed, in tourneys. I believe most tournament anglers are responsible enough to fish the bait without hurting a lakes bass population. Its the guys who harvest their catch, all sizes, and by the dozens, that are going to mis-use this bait.

X2, those guys are going to over harvest and keep illegal sized fish no matter what they use. DNR has got to stay on top of these guys and put em in jail if need be. A responsible fisherman also respect nature and takes care not to hurt it. always got to be a small group that screws things up for everyone.

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Posted: 27 January 2012 05:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 53 ]
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Is this legal?

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc373/TKoutdoor/393827_2253614559612_1825740601_1417889_1478977966_n.jpg

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Posted: 27 January 2012 06:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 54 ]
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TK - 25 January 2012 07:15 PM

Some more responses from very respected FLW anglers against the A-rig.  I think that they make a great case.  What do you think about what they have to say?

http://www.flwoutdoors.com/fishing-articles/blog/153216/alabama-rig-blog-one-rod-one-bait-one-legacy/

http://www.flwoutdoors.com/fishing-articles/blog/153221/tharp-blog-a-rig-is-the-wrong-direction/

Personally, I dont care if its banned, or allowed, in tourneys. I believe most tournament anglers are responsible enough to fish the bait without hurting a lakes bass population. Its the guys who harvest their catch, all sizes, and by the dozens, that are going to mis-use this bait.

I’m not talking as much how will it effect the fishery, as much as I am talking about how it will change Tournament fishing and the tackle industry.  If you look at the predictions, most of the tournaments will be won using the A-Rig.  So what happens to all those guys that have made a living fishing “x” lure and then promoting it to the industry.  Now if you want to win “most” tournaments you will have to throw the A-Rig.  That will be great for the manufactures of the A-Rigs, swimbaits, and jig heads, will just make the sport boring and have little to no diversity in fishing styles and strengths.

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Posted: 27 January 2012 06:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 55 ]
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Geez, that’s gotta be over $120 worth of baits/rig he’s throwing there. I bet that’s a fun rig to throw with 4 a- rigs & 17 swimbaits on it, gotta be going well over 5 oz not even counting the weight of the plastics.

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Posted: 27 January 2012 06:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 56 ]
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holy cow…

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Posted: 27 January 2012 06:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 57 ]
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TK - 27 January 2012 05:53 PM

Is this legal?

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc373/TKoutdoor/393827_2253614559612_1825740601_1417889_1478977966_n.jpg

Must be it’s only 1 lure right, 17 baits but 1 lure.

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Posted: 29 January 2012 11:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 58 ]
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The A-Rig continues to dominate Professional Fishing, at least if you want to do well.

http://www.flwoutdoors.com/bassfishing/afs/tournament/2012/6769/lake-shasta-headline-story/153232/harris-hangs-on-to-win-shasta-title/

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Posted: 06 February 2012 01:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 59 ]
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Finally!!! A list of all the states of where it is legal and why it is illegal with the reasoning why it is illegal or how it can be modified to be legal.

http://www.fhcoutdoors.com/list-of-all-alabama-rig-state-laws/

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Posted: 06 February 2012 08:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 60 ]
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LilJakeC - 06 February 2012 01:17 AM

Finally!!! A list of all the states of where it is legal and why it is illegal with the reasoning why it is illegal or how it can be modified to be legal.

http://www.fhcoutdoors.com/list-of-all-alabama-rig-state-laws/

Great find Jake, thanks!

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