Ok, I need some help befre I loose what little bit of mind that I have left! It’s that time…I’ve got the “fever” & the only cure is “more cowbell…uh…bass fishing”. Anyways, I came back home from military leave & low & behold, my DVR had a couple of last years Bassmaster Tournaments & a couple of The Bass Pros episodes recorded on it. Those def served as the catalyst of my itch for warmer weather & to be on the water for some bass fishing.
With that being said, I’m in the market for some new rods/reels. I’m looking at the KVD 7’ MH Cranking rod & also the KVD 6’10” MED/HVY fast taper casting rod. My questions are… what all different types of fishing applications/presentations is the 7’ Cranking rod good?
also, is the 6’10” good for any type of crank baits? would it be good for Lipless cranks???
Thanks in advance for any help that y’all may give me!!!
The 7MH cranking rod I’d use for cranks that run 10’ or less, square-bills, wake baits, lipless, and topwater.
The 6’10MH graphite I would use for 3/8oz SB and buzzbaits primarely based on what KVD designed this rod for. However, I use a couple 6’9-6’11 MH rods for flipping jigs/plastics near docks/cover. It can handle a 1/2 oz lipless or a football head too if needed.
I recommend the 7MH cranking rod. But for $20 more I’d choose the 6’10MH Quantum EXO over KVD’s 6’10. It would be more of an all-purpose rod IMO and should suite your needs.
So basically the 7MH is a shallow (10’ & less) “treble hook” rod…right? Is the tip to soft to cover any type of “single hook” presentations?
and for the 6’10”...I figured it would be a great SB & Buzzbait rod, but I got threw for a loop when KVD talked about it having a soft enough tip on one of his advertisment videos.
I guess in conclusion & to make sure I’m on track…7MH cranking for the shallow water treble hook presentations & the 6’10” MH casting for the typical single hook presentations?
7’ mh fast tip rod is the most versatile rod you can have. you can fish almost everything with it, except maybe 1/4 oz or less baits and you use spinning gear for that. Almost every rod i have is 7’mh rods
7’ mh fast tip rod is the most versatile rod you can have. you can fish almost everything with it, except maybe 1/4 oz or less baits and you use spinning gear for that. Almost every rod i have is 7’mh rods
I’m not questioning you…instead, I’m asking you a question… Isn’t a “Fast Tip” too stiff for fishing a crank bait? I’m not a crank bait fisherman…I’ve threw some from time to time, but don’t currently possess the skill set &/or knowledge to say that I’m a crank bait fisherman. Though I’m working to change that by doing research & then of course the obvious trial & error that will come once I’m out on the water this year.
From what I’ve read, it seems consitent that it is suggested a person should use a slower tip (taper) when using cranks so that it is easier to keep the fish hooked & also that it alows you to cast further.
Are you saying that a “fast taper” can be effectively used to fish crank baits?
Crank baits need a more flexible tip, but a lot of backbone. that way you can get long casts and a slower reaction on the hookset so you don’t rip the bait out of the fish’s mouth, but enough backbone to fight the fish effectively. most use an e-glass/composite rod in open water and a little stiffer rod around cover. for deep crankin you need a 5.X:1 reel. taper all determines what the rod is made of. it’s the action and power you want to be concerned with. a 7’ Medium action MFast tip rod should work well in open water. then go to a MH Mfast tip in cover in a composite rod. Rod should be a lot more whippy for cranks than say what you would use for flipping or pitchin.
So basically the 7MH is a shallow (10’ & less) “treble hook” rod…right? Is the tip to soft to cover any type of “single hook” presentations?
and for the 6’10”...I figured it would be a great SB & Buzzbait rod, but I got threw for a loop when KVD talked about it having a soft enough tip on one of his advertisment videos.
I guess in conclusion & to make sure I’m on track…7MH cranking for the shallow water treble hook presentations & the 6’10” MH casting for the typical single hook presentations?
Yea, I would stick to treble hook baits with the 7MH cranking rod. I had one and loved throwing Rapala DT6 and DT10’s om it. I fished a lot of Red Eye Shads with it too.
The 6’10 is idea for single hook baits. Its graphite and has a faster tip. In a pinch it could be used for a lot of baits (1/2 oz or less).
The problem I have with the term “MH” is that every manufacture has a different interpretation of “MH”. There is no set industry standard as to what is L, ML, M MH, H etc. The best term IMO should be what % of the rod flexes (the tip) and what % of the rod is the backbone. I have many rods with the same “MH” label that act differently. Hopefully this doesn’t confuse the situation even more, even though it might. I would like to have the “MH” KVD cranking rod, I have looked at it multiple times and I like the action and feel. I just might have to get one this summer.
The problem I have with the term “MH” is that every manufacture has a different interpretation of “MH”. There is no set industry standard as to what is L, ML, M MH, H etc. The best term IMO should be what % of the rod flexes (the tip) and what % of the rod is the backbone. I have many rods with the same “MH” label that act differently. Hopefully this doesn’t confuse the situation even more, even though it might. I would like to have the “MH” KVD cranking rod, I have looked at it multiple times and I like the action and feel. I just might have to get one this summer.
X2, i have all different manufacturers of MH rods and you are right, they all perform differently. some feel like H rods while other are closer to M rods. i think it depends on the type of graphite used.
A rod with IM6 blanks are not as stiff as IM7, IM7 not as stiff as IM8 and IM8 is not as stiff as 50 million or 54 million modulus. i have some of all of these. so i have to switch around reels to different rods depending on how i want to fish that day. i am constantly all year long doing this. now i have more reels so i won’t need to do it as much this year. i can spend more time fishing instead of rigging. personally i like the less stiff rods and they are generally cheaper so it works out good for me. most of what i throw is in the 3/8 oz to 5/8 oz range,
i only use the stiffer rods if i’m going to throw a bait like a 3/4 oz spinnerbait or bigger or a 1/2 oz or bigger frog. or a big swimbait, or big jig or worm. I do have some war eagle 3/4 oz spinnerbaits i like to throw.
Only way to cure this i guess is to have all your Rods 1 brand, then you can have setups you know how it’s going to perform. i will probably never experience that.
You can usually gauge the stiffness of a rod by the thickness in the butt(hehe). Some of my lighter feeling MH rods are pretty thin all the way down, while my stiffer spinnerbait MHs are almost as big around as my flipping sticks in the bottom 1/3.
The 6’10” MH Fast sounds like a good compromise on length. I use two rods for spinnerbaits: 7’ and 6’6”. The 7’ for open water, and the 6’6” for closer targets. I would think that if you were using a larger treble like a #2 or #4 that you are going to have enough rod to set the hook. I used a Cabelas MH and it was more of a Medium. I think it’s OK to have different rods from different companies. Sometimes another rod works the best.
The problem I have with the term “MH” is that every manufacture has a different interpretation of “MH”. There is no set industry standard as to what is L, ML, M MH, H etc. The best term IMO should be what % of the rod flexes (the tip) and what % of the rod is the backbone. I have many rods with the same “MH” label that act differently. Hopefully this doesn’t confuse the situation even more, even though it might. I would like to have the “MH” KVD cranking rod, I have looked at it multiple times and I like the action and feel. I just might have to get one this summer.
From my understanding…taper deals exclusively with the flex of the rods tip. Extra Fast being the stiffest & quickest (flipping/pitching…heavy cover soft plastic), Fast being a step down from XF (most single hook applications like spinner baits, buzz baits, texas rigged plastics, etc…) & down to moderate being in the mid range (crank baits).
Classifications of Med, Med Hvy, Hvy, etc…is “in reference to” (IRT) how much “backbone” the rod has. Essentially, the load that the rod can handle IRT lure weight, line weight, etc…
I’ve got the 7’0 MH Cranking rod at the house now. I’m looking to make this rod my primary shallow cranking & lipless crank bait rod. My question, seeing how I’m very inexpirenced w/shallow cranking/ lipless, what is the suggested reel speed/IPT for this type of application? I’ve heard folks say that you need to use a “burner” type speed & have heard others say to use a slower “power” (5:?:?) speed reel. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
